Creativity is a soulful expression. A spiritual practice, even.
We’ve seen or heard it in visual arts, music, and songs, even in dance. For many centuries, people have used the creative to express spirituality, faith, and belief. It was actually through this that it was passed on to the succeeding generations.
When I encountered this episode’s guest, Tesz Milan, she had left singing for over a decade but she had just finally come into owning that she was creative.
To Tesz, being a creative director for other businesses is very much like a musical—you have a story that you’re telling as a singer and you’re creating that story for others. It was her way of connecting to all of what’s unseen. And she’s using her creative output as a way of drawing that energy and creating things for others to feel that for themselves in whatever shape that is in their lives.
In this podcast, we give light to the realities and practicalities of and around the artistic expression. Behind every awe-inspiring act, work, or sound is a whole being poured in in the process of its creation.
Tesz narrates how at the beginning, when she was starting off as a singer, difficult conversations about compensation and the struggle of finding a balance between that and cultivating the creative.
In places like finance or medicine or these more easily understood professions, we have a concept as a society of how we’re going to compensate for those services, whereas for artists, it’s so tough. So one has to know what they’re going into when venturing to art and the creative as a full-time commitment–it takes a lot of time, energy, perseverance, and courage to continue doing what artists do and not get paid right away.
And as an artist, especially with as quickly as digital has taken over our world in the way that we express and communicate our artistic and creative abilities, putting oneself out there to connect with others has been both challenging and exciting at the same time.
Catch this enlightening “insight from the inside” by Tesz Milan! Only here at the Outer Travel, Inner Journey podcast!
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Pocket Quotes
- Let me listen to your message. I bridge what you’re trying to communicate to your audience to who you are and what it is that they want and need in their lives. – Tesz Milan
- Every time I’m being creative, it is a spiritual practice. It’s something that I do to feel connected to all of what’s unseen. And I’m using myself and using my creative output as a way of drawing that energy and creating things for others to feel that for themselves in whatever shape that is in their lives. – Tesz Milan
- It’s so easy to have dreams and visions, but it’s very hard to bring them into this world and stimulate the subconscious. There’s always a sense that if I say my mantra often enough, I probably am going to get it. But it takes real action to get things down. – Tesz Milan
- Music is a part of our spiritual makeup or our spiritual being. – Tesz Milan
- The easiest way for me to feel discouraged is when I don’t feel like what I’m doing is actually reaching anybody. – Tesz Milan
Guest Bio
Tesz Milan, formerly a singer and performer, is a Creative Marketing Director and Copywriter. Her creativity helps businesses communicate their purpose and the value they bring to the world.

Elaine Butler is a designer and environmentalist, managing her website
Carole Piriou is the founder of The Wisdom of Desire established in 2021. She works one on one with women to restore their desire, aliveness and creativity. Part of her work is to reconnect them with their sexual energy, pleasure, and orgasms. She goes to the root of the problem and creates more bliss for women. She studied sexuality coaching with Layla Martin for 6 years and also uses jade eggs in her coaching. She loves to learn continuously to gain mastery on her craft. She is French but has been living in the Netherlands for 15 years with her family.
Kathleen Whalen provides solutions and guides professionals and individuals working in stressful environments to improve their mental health and well-being by employing Vedic Astrology and Chinese Medicine. She has a background in allopathic medicine, lab research in immunity and neuroscience, and has degrees in Biochemistry and Chinese Medicine. She is the founder and creator of Conscious Calendars and has been serving the international community with its products since 2006. Through her work and consulting tools, she has helped thousands of individuals and companies see opportunities ahead of time to succeed. Kathleen is currently residing in the United States.
Chelan Harkin grew up in the Columbia River Gorge and it was here that she first fell in love with creative writing. She has been writing poetry for over a decade and in 2020 she published her first book of poetry “Susceptible to Light” a collection of her best poems from her early teens and twenties. Her work is highly influenced by other mystical poets including Hafiz and Rumi and has reached an international audience on a scale she called ‘beyond her wildest dreams’. (Cole Goodwin)

Steffo Shambo is the founder of the Tantric Academy. He is a men’s relationship coach and hosts a mentorship program called the Tantric Man Experience, th
Amanda Rose is a certified and experienced sex educator. She has been privileged enough to help many couples figure out problems in their love lives. Coach and long time doTERRA Wellness Advocate. She works with people who want to bring more pleasure, excitement and self expression into their lives. Amanda is here to help you remember who you are, and to remind you of the magic words “pleasure, consent, sovereignty and communication.”

Marcelo Valansi is an innovative entrepreneur who is dedicated to the design, development and implementation of self-sustaining regenerative projects and communities. Marcelo has extensive experience in developing residential and commercial projects of different scale in several countries, such as Argentina, the United States, Panama, Costa Rica.

Nicole is a yoga teacher for more than a decade and has taught yoga worldwide. She has trained with renowned yoga teachers like Sri Guru Dharma Mittra, who enabled her to deepen her knowledge about the Marga Asthanga and Vinyasa Yoga.
Kerstin Walsh is an artist born in Meppen, Germany in 1976 and later lived in Germany. Together with her twin sister Astrid, also an artist, she explored the world, collecting a BA in English Literature and Sociology (University College Dublin 1998), a HDip in Social Policy (2002) and a Masters in Social Work (2005) University College Cork.
Astrid Walsh is an amazing visual artist from Ireland. She has done numerous individual and collaborative exhibitions across the country and received awards and recognitions for her work. She first started her healing journey and discovered Ayurveda when she was undergoing treatment for Lyme disease in 2003.